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	<title>Comments on: Tooling up to read, write and cite</title>
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	<description>bioneural.net is for stuff worth sharing: commentary by Bruce McKenzie. Major topics covered are gadgets, informatics, Internet, Mac, mobile, musings, New Zealand, photography, Project Koru, quicklinks, rant, rave, travel and Windows</description>
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		<title>By: A.</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a lifelong Mac user and current masters student, I can completely relate.  I am obliged to have Boot Camp installed for several GIS applications, but I am significantly more productive (&amp; content) on this side of the partition. My transition to iWork has rendered me similarly impatient with Office programs, though - as you&#039;ve found - I occasionally have to give up and go with the standard.  
That said, I&#039;m very happy with Sente as a citation manager. Their support is seriously world-class.  The few times I&#039;ve encountered issues I couldn&#039;t resolve in the forums, I&#039;ve received personal responses within hours of an email to customer support.  When I inquired about a bibliography format that somehow wasn&#039;t among the multitude they offer, I was told that I could simply submit the format details and they would whip it up.  Plus, no problem getting the student discount.
Despite some weird Pages export-to-PDF  font rendering quirks,  I&#039;m sticking to Pages/Sente/Skim. They&#039;re just such a pleasure to use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a lifelong Mac user and current masters student, I can completely relate.  I am obliged to have Boot Camp installed for several GIS applications, but I am significantly more productive (&amp; content) on this side of the partition. My transition to iWork has rendered me similarly impatient with Office programs, though - as you've found - I occasionally have to give up and go with the standard.<br />
That said, I'm very happy with Sente as a citation manager. Their support is seriously world-class.  The few times I've encountered issues I couldn't resolve in the forums, I've received personal responses within hours of an email to customer support.  When I inquired about a bibliography format that somehow wasn't among the multitude they offer, I was told that I could simply submit the format details and they would whip it up.  Plus, no problem getting the student discount.<br />
Despite some weird Pages export-to-PDF  font rendering quirks,  I'm sticking to Pages/Sente/Skim. They're just such a pleasure to use.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 09:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just sent some &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.apple.com/feedback/pages.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;feedback&lt;/a&gt; to Apple re opening-up Pages to to (say) the Papers SDK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just sent some <a href="http://www.apple.com/feedback/pages.html" rel="nofollow">feedback</a> to Apple re opening-up Pages to to (say) the Papers SDK.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 09:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Pages bibtex looks as though it has died - last version dated at 2005-05-03 - and I&#039;ve always been disappointed in the performance of OpenOffice.

I&#039;d found the Papers + Word 2008 plugin thing earlier through Googling around and have been searching the Papers forums for a Pages plugin - maybe convince someone to make one ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Pages bibtex looks as though it has died - last version dated at 2005-05-03 - and I've always been disappointed in the performance of OpenOffice.</p>
<p>I'd found the Papers + Word 2008 plugin thing earlier through Googling around and have been searching the Papers forums for a Pages plugin - maybe convince someone to make one ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 06:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@D Pages 3.0.2 does open .docx but will export only to .doc. As you indicate, Word in Office 2004/ Office v. X requires the Open XML Converter add-on.

Thanks for the link to the Pages citation helper; hadn&#039;t seen that but had been keeping an eye on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.zotero.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Zotero&lt;/a&gt; for Firefox (currently subject to legal &lt;a href=&quot;http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/09/27/2113248&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;threats&lt;/a&gt; from EndNote) and the OpenOffice Bibliographic &lt;a href=&quot;http://bibliographic.openoffice.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;project&lt;/a&gt;.

Did you follow the &lt;a href=&quot;http://vnoel.wordpress.com/2008/02/14/papers-word-2008-bibliography-heaven&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;link&lt;/a&gt; for discussion re Papers + Word 2008&#039;s citation manager?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@D Pages 3.0.2 does open .docx but will export only to .doc. As you indicate, Word in Office 2004/ Office v. X requires the Open XML Converter add-on.</p>
<p>Thanks for the link to the Pages citation helper; hadn't seen that but had been keeping an eye on <a href="http://www.zotero.org/" rel="nofollow">Zotero</a> for Firefox (currently subject to legal <a href="http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/09/27/2113248" rel="nofollow">threats</a> from EndNote) and the OpenOffice Bibliographic <a href="http://bibliographic.openoffice.org/" rel="nofollow">project</a>.</p>
<p>Did you follow the <a href="http://vnoel.wordpress.com/2008/02/14/papers-word-2008-bibliography-heaven" rel="nofollow">link</a> for discussion re Papers + Word 2008's citation manager?</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 23:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just realised that my iPhone opens .docx files, whereas my older Word and Pages do not (without a converter)!

I will have to decide whether to go with iWork 08 or Office 2008 myself, although I much prefer Pages to Word and Keynote is better than Powerpoint, also I hear Numbers is really good. Just how to deal with all that citing and bibliography stuff if I use Pages... and then there is Nisus Writer to consider.

There was a Pages &lt;a href=&quot;http://rubyforge.org/projects/pages-bibtex/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;citation helper&lt;/a&gt;, but I never tried it, and though Papers does look impressive, I would be interested to hear how well the export to Word 2008 Bibliography actually works.

I suppose I will have to bow to the inevitable, and go the Word/Endnote route, despite the horrors I hear about Word 2008 screwing things up! I did my last dissertation purely in Word 10.1.8 - which was a fight at times!!

Oh, and I reinstalled Adobe Reader, because Preview will not deal with formulae, although I&#039;m not saying Reader does it perfectly - grrrrrr!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just realised that my iPhone opens .docx files, whereas my older Word and Pages do not (without a converter)!</p>
<p>I will have to decide whether to go with iWork 08 or Office 2008 myself, although I much prefer Pages to Word and Keynote is better than Powerpoint, also I hear Numbers is really good. Just how to deal with all that citing and bibliography stuff if I use Pages... and then there is Nisus Writer to consider.</p>
<p>There was a Pages <a href="http://rubyforge.org/projects/pages-bibtex/" rel="nofollow">citation helper</a>, but I never tried it, and though Papers does look impressive, I would be interested to hear how well the export to Word 2008 Bibliography actually works.</p>
<p>I suppose I will have to bow to the inevitable, and go the Word/Endnote route, despite the horrors I hear about Word 2008 screwing things up! I did my last dissertation purely in Word 10.1.8 - which was a fight at times!!</p>
<p>Oh, and I reinstalled Adobe Reader, because Preview will not deal with formulae, although I'm not saying Reader does it perfectly - grrrrrr!</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 17:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EndNote must have the academia marker cornered! &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.le.ac.uk/li/research/started_endnote.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;UoL&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EndNote must have the academia marker cornered! <a href="http://www.le.ac.uk/li/research/started_endnote.html" rel="nofollow">UoL</a></p>
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