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57 responses to An ABC of geotagging photos on the Mac


  1. 1 icerabbit

    Thanks for this very detailed article, Bruce.

    Since the geotag icon project I have been a little curious what solutions would be out there to help gather the data and inject it into the images. So, a very timely article.

    For me, the choice would probably be a compact keyring type logger, that I can then later pair up to images from two, sometimes three, cameras. Even over one of those soon to be available inexpensive commercial hotshoe units. (I don't have the soldering skills to go DIY)

    Ideally of course in the future we will have the option to buy a camera with built-in gps or as a specific accessory; and the camera can record the data along with the picture, so everything is transparent & accurate without having to spend time pairing images & locations and tweaking with a third party application .

  2. 2 Bruce

    Yes, a data logger is certainly flexible as it doesn't tie you down to using one camera—or one type of device for that matter (since geotagging could also be done using a smart phone, Pocket PC, Palm, in-car GPS, and hopefully post-SDK using an iPhone). But a camera like this at a $US250 price-point for truly automatic geotagging is an attractive proposition.

    In the meantime if you want to make use of your existing kit then even using a data logger is involved to the point where it will put off all but the more determined from getting in on the act. People need a compelling reason to inject more than the minimum effort into any activity; it would be very interesting to hear from habitual photo geoaggers to learn what motivates them.

  3. 3 David

    Good article Bruce - I shall no doubt dip into it when I tool-up for my next trip.

    Having recently bought a new camera (a Pentax because all my legacy lenses are Pentax fit and I didn't want to fork out the huge ££££ for a complete new outfit) I will certainly be exploring the data loggers and will require an aviation GPS unit shortly.

    I am impressed with the likes of Flight Master Palm PDA maps with GPS - I need to get head around co-ordinating it all!

    BTW Pixelpost, commonly used by PhotBloggers has good GMap integration.

  4. 4 Bruce

    I hadn't considered cross-platform online applications that let you manually geo-locate a photo with Google Maps (or similar) and write coordinates to EXIF—so you're right to mention the possibility David. However, I looked at the Pixelpost demo installation and saw no option to do either: what am I missing? Did you mean that it can display EXIF-GPS data from already geotagged photos and put them on a Google Map (again I didn't find that functionality in the demo)?

  5. 5 tunequest

    Awesome. Thanks for this article.

    Your timing is perfect for me. I'm going on a long vacation in a couple weeks and wanted to get a logger to track my adventures and photos. As a new user (and mac user) there's a dense wall of information to go through while researching and this is a nice comprehensive primer.

  6. 6 Bruce

    I'm going on a long vacation in a couple weeks and wanted to get a logger to track my adventures and photos

    Lucky you! Be great if you could report back how it went in due course: any issues with connectivity or synchronizing your track logs, what OS X software you found best fitted your needs, etc.

  7. 7 David

    This looks interesting http://www.geotagger.co.uk/

  8. 8 Bruce

    You could buy a lot of data loggers for the £350 the Jelbert GeoTagger sets you back. Or a complete camera with integrated GPS.

  9. 9 David

    and on the PixelPost question (just been through the comments) as from version 1.5 - this version of the addon uses included EXIF GPS tags if they exist to create the image's Google Map location. A button will be displayed with the text 'Use EXIF Tags' to extract the information from the exif. The map is automatically updated with the new coordinates.

  10. 10 Dave Wild

    That's very thorough! :)

    There are so many possibilities with all of this stuff. For instance, I notice that the RoboGeo software for PC's will also geotag audio files recorded with a digital dictaphone. In order for that feature to be there, there has to be people using it - the thought of people who go out and record wildlife sounds being able to place them on a map is fascinating. A quick search turns up some discussions about this and the British Library have a map showing regional accents that you can listen to.

    I'd love things to get to the point where news stories are geotagged both on things like the BBC web site and individual pieces on news TV so that you can cherry pick the bits you want based on location.

    Lots and lots of possibilities for this kind of thing really :)

  11. 11 Bruce

    people who go out and record wildlife sounds being able to place them on a map

    Yes that's a use I'd not conceived of, but has very practical applications in tracking (even identifying) threatened or endangered species, for example. I think I'll have to add an audio example to the geotagicons.com site. Thanks Dave!

  12. 12 Phil

    I saw in your post where Flickr eats the geotags. I thought this too, but it turns out that you need to manually process uploaded photos to have the geotags processed onto the map. If you look at the geotagging FAQ you will find a link to the batch processor which will process and map all your geotags. Check it out:

    The FAQ is here:
    http://www.flickr.com/help/map/#226

    And the link to the processor is here:
    http://flickr.com/account/geo/import/

  13. 13 Bruce

    Thanks Phil. Yes, you can painstakingly use the geo microformat to re-associate location information with individual uploads (although the data are not stored in EXIF, so won't be available if the image is downloaded, for example). Where your intended uploads are already geotagged in EXIF, we all need to be aware that at least some Flickr uploaders—in common with other image-handling software—may strip out data that already exists.

    But my understanding was that the geo microformat method had been superseded by drag-and-drop on the Flickr Map. For example, this image was placed on my Flickr Map without using the microformat. There's no indication on the image page that it's on the Map, but coordinates are somehow associated with the image. Download the image and you'll see they're not in EXIF. Happy to be put straight if I've got this wrong.

  14. 14 tunequest

    Be great if you could report back how it went in due course

    I ordered the Wintec WBT-201 yesterday and I've set an iCal reminder to come back and let you know how it goes. It'll be two months, but I'll be back.

  15. 15 JT

    There is a great (unaffiliated) tool that I use to get kmz/kml files from geotagged photos on OS X called PhotoKML. This makes going from photos to a nice output in Google Earth a breeze.

  16. 16 Dhcmrlchtdj

    Congratulations on your well-researched article. It taught me a good deal about the available geotagging options. I see you briefly mention Ovolab Geophoto. I'm part of Geophoto's engineering team, and I'd like to point you and your readers to Geophoto 2.0, released just a few days ago. I think Geophoto 2.0 addresses most of the deficiencies reported to us by users and reviewers. Pictures can now be positioned with street-level accuracy thanks to the integrated Google Maps view. They can be matched (individually or in batch mode) to track points from a GPS unit or log file. Also, we now do RAW, and Nikon RAW (.NEF) in particular. Last, but not least, we improved Geophoto's integration with Flickr: you can now display your own Flickr photostream within Geophoto, position your pictures, and Geophoto will automatically write the geotags to Flickr.

  17. 17 Bruce

    @Dhcmrlchtdj. Thanks for the update. I did notice its release, but unfortunately the demo is still crippled by not actually doing any geotagging (i.e. writing data to EXIF) so I was unable to evaluate it. Shame you kept the essentially decorative spinning globe so big and the more useful Google Map so small (which needs search BTW), but otherwise congratulations on what at first glance looks to be a very slick interface.

  18. 18 Jon

    Great article. I used this to get me started, bought the AMOD AGL3080, took it out and had a blast. Works perfectly in OS X Leopard with GPSPhotoLinker! Thanks for the article!

  19. 19 Bruce

    Hi Jon; the AGL3080 certainly looks like the only choice if it's out-of-the-box Mac compatibility you're after. If it only had Bluetooth...

  20. 20 Hans Van Rafelghem

    I use a Garmin 60CSx and Garmin Bobcat & GPSPhotoLinker or Lightroom 2.0 to geotag my travel images. This works perfect.

    The only problem is that you need an internet connection to display those locations on a map like Google Maps or so. It would be nice if I could do this also offline with a worldmap on my laptop instead of online. Any idea what map program I could use for that? Bobcat (or Mapsource) shows the tracks your GPS registered but there is no possibility to let bobcat make waypoints based on the GPS coordinates in the EXIF of your photos.

  21. 21 Jason

    Great article! Lots of useful info.

    I'm about to take a 2 week trip out to northern California for some sightseeing, so I'm looking into some geotagging. I found a device called PhotoFinder:

    photofinder.atpinc.com

    This thing should tag the JPEGs directly -- just put your SD card in it or any attached USB device formatted for FAT32. I don't know how well it will work, but it's not expensive ($89 at costco.com) so I figured I'd give it a try. It should also export KML files directly... The FAQ on their web site says it's coming with a firmware update, but the PDF manual says the functionality is there. Perhaps they just need to update their web site.

  22. 22 Bruce

    @Hans: I don't know of any OS X-based mapping service that would enable you to read and plot geodata while offline. Every "view of map" facility I've come across queries an Internet server.

    @Jason: let us know how you find the ATP PhotoFinder; there's a bit of discussion about some of its limitations on this blog here.

  23. 23 Alva

    Another product just released is the Eye-Fi Explore

    Though not as accurate (it uses wi-fi/database to position ... with associated problems), it's a very neat and tiny, all-in-one package.

    Minor problems:

    • Needs wi-fi to position itself (not available in all areas)
    • Not as accurate as GPS.
    • Depends on a database of wi-fi locations, and that database being up-to-date.
  24. 24 Bruce

    The Eye-Fi is an interesting concept Alva. In my limited testing iPhone triangulation based on cell towers is reasonably accurate, but with data roaming off to force the Maps app to plot my location using WiFi it has been useless. Perhaps if you travel to a densely networked city like NYC you might expect the Eye-Fi to be of some use, but I guess an extremely small proportion of my images would be taken within WiFi range. It's great that it's Mac-compatible (although probably not NEF-compatible) but I'm unconvinced it's better than nothing. Given the inaccuracy of any images it did manage to tag, I would think a manual geotagging solution (e.g. using Google Earth) would yield more acceptable and consistent results.

  25. 25 Bernhard

    I have added a User Story to my blog how I would like to see geotagging tools for daily use. i also mention there which tools I am currently using.

    http://www.weichel21.de/wordpress/?p=50

    Bernhard

  26. 26 Bruce

    That's an impressive list of requirements Bernhard! Since writing this post I listed my own somewhat more modest requirements in a roundup of Mac geotagging software, which may be of interest to you.

  27. 27 Jon

    Has anyone had issues with GPSPhotoLinker where it doesn't seem to read the date/time from your photo's EXIF data? I'm able to see the date/time fine in preview, Bridge, etc. but I can't seem to get GPSPhotoLinker to read it (it seems like it used to and then something broke). I'm using Leopard.

  28. 28 Bruce

    @Jon I've not seen any issues using the current 1.6.0b10 version. I did find a NEF-related bug a bit ago and Jeffrey released a prompt fix. I suggest contacting him and maybe offering to send an example image that is giving you this issue (especially if it's a raw format he may not have had access to for testing).

  29. 29 Jon

    @Bruce Thanks for the tip. I didn't realize I wasn't using the latest version. I downloaded the latest and the bug went away. For some reason, in the version I was using (not sure which), the date column was empty (when using JPGs) even though there was EXIF data for it. Upgrading made it read the date correctly and now everything matches my tracklogs.

    Awesome tutorial by the way!

  30. 30 josh

    Bruce - I'm using the Geotagger utility and randomly, I get the following error message:
    AppleScript Error
    Warning: [minor] Possibly incorrect maker notes offsets (fix by 3884?) - /Users/pretsky/Pictures/Pretshouse/2007/08-August/Trip to Europe/100200E.jpg
    Error: [minor] MakerNotes pointer references previous ExifIFD directory - /Users/pretsky/Pictures/Pretshouse/2007/08-August/Trip to Europe/100200E.jpg (1)

    Do you have any idea what could be causing this?

    Thanks

  31. 31 Bruce

    @ Josh: random errors. My favourite kind ;-)

    That would be the AppleScript Craig modified to interact with ExifTool I assume, but as to the cause... If you re-download Geotagger and look in the Read Me there's an e-mail address Craig says you can use for help requests. That's your best bet I'd say.

  32. 32 YanParis

    Hello, thanks for the article, very useful for me.

    I was considering using the new iPhone (GPS) with the Instamapper application ? But export formats are only CSV and KML.

  33. 33 Bruce

    Instamapper... export formats are only CSV and KML.

    Not a problem; you can use something like GPSBabel to convert to GPX if that's what you need.

  34. 34 Silviu

    Hi,

    Very nice summary. I switched recently to using a Mac after years of Windows, and I'm looking for a piece of software that will allow me to graphically edit my GPX tracks to correct them (i.e. remove wrong points and clean the trace). I used RouteConverter http://www.routeconverter.de under Windows but the Mac version does not feature the google map... Is there an equivalent for Mac?

    Silviu

  35. 35 Bruce

    Silviu, TrailRunner can display imported GPX tracks on several map types, and includes the option to merge overlapping tracks, split tracks, but not sure if you can actually delete individual track points.

  36. 36 Silviu

    Thank you for your reply; I already tried TrailRunner and it's a very well-done application but it doesn't allow to change individual points in the trace... I keep looking!

    Silviu

  37. 37 Pierre Bernard

    HoudahGeo is about to hit 2.0 - major, yet free upgrade. Beta versions are currently available on macdeveloper.net

    HoudahGeo 2.0 brings support for Lightroom 2, greatly enhances support for Aperture & iPhoto.

    HoudahGeo 2.0 may connect to many more GPS track loggers.

    Flickr upload now supports sets.

    Many more enhancements...

  38. 38 Übermind

    Hey all,

    I just wanted to chime in on your discussion about geotagging your images...

    We are testing Maperture Pro BETA currently which allows you to visually geotag your images, import tracklog data from a GPS device, reverse geocode location information, save location bookmarks, copy & paste location information as well as several others. If you are interested in testing it out and providing feedback...

    Go to http://www.ubermind.com/beta, take it for a spin, and tell us what you think.

    Thanks!

  39. 39 Brent

    Thanks for taking the time to write this up and share it with the world! In my brief quest for a solution to geo-tagging my photos (I use a Canon 40D and Aperture for converting the raw images and storing files), I came across this nifty-looking app at the app store. It sounds perfect, but I have not yet tried it (not sure if it works beyond Flickr uploading).

    http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=294194869&mt=8

    http://www.galarina.eu/GeoLogTag/News/News.html

  40. 40 Bruce

    @Brent if you're going to use your iPhone 3G as a logger I would recommend you check out iTrail (£1.80) which is a lot more flexible than GeoLogTag (£3) appears to be (which I haven't used either). You can do manual geotaging by marking waypoints and/ or record a full track log for automatic geotagging. The resulting GPX file can be exported via Google Docs or retrieved via the excellent TrailRunner app (donationware). Trails for iPhone also looks excellent and works with TrailRunner too. My advice would be to use the GPX export with HoudahGeo (which I recently reviewed) for 1-2-3 geotagging and sharing (e.g. Flickr, KMZ).

    Incidentally, if you wanted to upload pre-geotagged images from your Canon to Flickr via iPhone—thinking you might sync them via iPhoto and use a free app like Darkslide or Flickit to place them on Flickr Map—you're out of luck as the geodata are stripped during downsizing.

    Disclosure: I donated the tab icons for iTrail.

  41. 41 Charles C

    I just recently used MotionX GPS for the iPhone 3G as my data logger and it worked great. It's super easy to use and when combined with GPSPhotoLinker is a very workable solution.

  42. 42 Bruce

    I just recently used MotionX GPS

    Does look interesting Charles, although not sure I like the idea of a GPX file attached to an e-mail link that expires after 7 days.

  43. 43 Charles C

    The seven day thing is only if you want to easily share with friends and family. You can keep the file on your phone or email to yourself and keep it for as long as you want. I use gpsvisualizer.com to output the files in google maps or to create a file for use with Google Earth. I've been pleasantly surprised by just how well MotionX GPS worked for me on my last trip. It also worked well to create elevation profiles with gpsvisualizer so I could see just how steep some of the trails I hiked really were.

    I have a USB battery by Lenmar which allowed me to get beyond the roughly five hours continuous GPS use on the iPhone. I used an iPhone case that I attached to my backpack so the iPhone had a good view of the sky and will absolutely be using this on future hikes.

  44. 44 Marek

    Can't say how often I have to say "Thank you" for this article.
    I've been on a trip to Lyon last weekend, and left my GPS Logger at home.
    So now I had a bunch of images, and good memories of great locations - but how to merge the locations into the image files (mostly .NEF)?
    Your article solved my problem, as using PhotoInfoEditor I was able to manually search the places in the embedded map and add the location info to my images.
    Again, thanks for that useful bunch of information! It saved my day!

  45. 45 johan

    thanks for your clear information.. i've been reading and reading...

    finally bought me the iBlue 747 a+ andhad some troubles getting the BT747 software to work on my macbook, but after reading the manual (should've started there, i know...)

    But now i love the device! Now i only still have to choose me a good trip/track/travel manager to manage my tracks with both streetmaps, aerial photography maps and geological maps, but i may have too high demands here... :)

  46. 46 Bruce

    @Johan as far as Mac-compatible track managers go I suggest you look at TrailRunner (donationware) or if you want an integrated solution that will both do the geotagging and serve as a track archive, check out the new PhotoLinker ($US50). Either of these options can display your tracks against a variety of online maps (road, satellite, topographical, etc.). HoudahGeo (reviewed by myself here) now has basic track archive functionality too but won't display your tracks against a map. If you need offline maps and manage a large collection of waypoints and/ or tracks you might consider RouteBuddy ($US100 for the viewer without maps; road maps $USextra per region; reviewed by myself here) but note that geotagged images/ data in EXIF are unsupported. Finally, Google Earth (free) can store both your tracks and geotagged images and as you know includes a variety of map layers.

  47. 47 johan

    hmm... BT747 is a lovely program.

    .... As long as it wants to connect.. sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't on my macBook (1st generation, 10.4 all updates, latest BT747 version). On my PC at work it connects directly

    On my setup the HoudaGPS program is more reliable.
    Trailrunner is running like a charm btw. Thanks! Will do some proper testing on my holiday next week in the Ardennen, belgium.

  48. 48 Silviu

    Hi,

    For Mac users I would suggest checking out myTracks, http://mytracks.sourceforge.net/Home.html, it's free (donations welcome) and has a lot of features:
    - integrated track manager (library), supports GPX and KML
    - graphic track editor using a background map (Google map etc.)
    - timeshift for pictures if the camera clock was not accurate
    - photo geotagging using tracks
    - Geonames integration: place name is fetched and can be saved back to EXIF/XMP

    The program keeps evolving and is often updated.

    Definitely woth checking out!

  49. 49 Bruce

    Thanks for the reminder Silviu; myTracks does get a few mentions elsewhere on this blog ;-)

  1. 1 MMISoftware Weblog - News, views and Mac OS X software
  2. 2 ≈ Relations › links for 2008-03-07
  3. 3 Geolocalizando fotos en Mac OS | b l o g r a p h o s
  4. 4 GeoTagging Images in OS X | The Atkins Family
  5. 5 Apple Macintosh und “geotaggen” von Fotos auf Flickr
  6. 6 GPS & Geotagging mit OSX - mareks Allerlei
  7. 7 My new geotagging workflow with the Amod AGL3080 and Lightroom
  8. 8 GPS Options for Nikon D90 - MacTalk Forums

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