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		<title>By: zzzombie &#187; Apprenez à mal coder grâce aux tutoriaux MSDN</title>
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		<dc:creator>zzzombie &#187; Apprenez à mal coder grâce aux tutoriaux MSDN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 21:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 08:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the feedback Graham&#8212;although that &quot;chap&quot; was actually me! And re your &lt;a href=&quot;http://getk2.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7351&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;question&lt;/a&gt; about widget spacing, I ended up using the same trick on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.geotagicons.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;geotagicons.com&lt;/a&gt;.

The &quot;photo album stuff&quot; is not difficult. It&#039;s more-or-less a default installation of Gallery 2, integrated into WordPress via an &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bioneural.net/2006/09/02/a-plugin-free-wp-embedded-gallery/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;iframe&lt;/a&gt; (no misbehaving plug-ins required). And the photos get into Gallery direct from iPhoto like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bioneural.net/2006/06/02/iphoto-to-web-gallery-bypassing-mac/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the feedback Graham&mdash;although that "chap" was actually me! And re your <a href="http://getk2.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7351" rel="nofollow">question</a> about widget spacing, I ended up using the same trick on <a href="http://www.geotagicons.com" rel="nofollow">geotagicons.com</a>.</p>
<p>The "photo album stuff" is not difficult. It's more-or-less a default installation of Gallery 2, integrated into WordPress via an <a href="http://www.bioneural.net/2006/09/02/a-plugin-free-wp-embedded-gallery/" rel="nofollow">iframe</a> (no misbehaving plug-ins required). And the photos get into Gallery direct from iPhoto like <a href="http://www.bioneural.net/2006/06/02/iphoto-to-web-gallery-bypassing-mac/" rel="nofollow">this</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 22:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings,

I was recommended your site after I pleaded for help on the K2 forum. I needed some advice on rounded CSS box corners and this chap sent me your links.

Just been fiddling for a few hours as it&#039;s all new to me and finally, after some unexpected issues, finally have it working.

I used your first example actually, but it works a treat for my purposes. So thanks very much for a great article and whilst I was here, I have been checking out your other stuff so much to read. It all looks great! :)

Especially liking the photo album stuff, but that looks a bit involved for me right now. 

Thanks again, Graham</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings,</p>
<p>I was recommended your site after I pleaded for help on the K2 forum. I needed some advice on rounded CSS box corners and this chap sent me your links.</p>
<p>Just been fiddling for a few hours as it's all new to me and finally, after some unexpected issues, finally have it working.</p>
<p>I used your first example actually, but it works a treat for my purposes. So thanks very much for a great article and whilst I was here, I have been checking out your other stuff so much to read. It all looks great! :)</p>
<p>Especially liking the photo album stuff, but that looks a bit involved for me right now. </p>
<p>Thanks again, Graham</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;the Gravatars all&lt;/blockquote&gt;

All? I only see yours on black (mine also uses alpha-transparency but is unaffected). I tried refreshing my Gravatar cache but yours is still black.

&lt;em&gt;Update&lt;/em&gt;: No, you&#039;re &lt;a href=&quot;http://david-hall.net/2008/03/13/solid-gravatar/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;right&lt;/a&gt;. Bugger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>the Gravatars all</p></blockquote>
<p>All? I only see yours on black (mine also uses alpha-transparency but is unaffected). I tried refreshing my Gravatar cache but yours is still black.</p>
<p><em>Update</em>: No, you're <a href="http://david-hall.net/2008/03/13/solid-gravatar/" rel="nofollow">right</a>. Bugger.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David is wondering why the Gravatars all suddenly have black backgrounds - a change at Gravatar HQ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David is wondering why the Gravatars all suddenly have black backgrounds - a change at Gravatar HQ?</p>
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		<dc:creator>Pages tagged "minimal"</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 12:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Bruce - it&#039;s the 24 bit pngs that will go, pro tem, nothing against yer standard ones though :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Bruce - it's the 24 bit pngs that will go, pro tem, nothing against yer standard ones though :)</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 10:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I am trying to eliminate them now&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Why is that David? Something against PNG or design reasons?

[quote post=&quot;809&quot;]I don&#039;t actually know how well it works, as I haven&#039;t looked through a Windows machine running IE.

I just fired up Parallels (with multiple IEs as &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bioneural.net/2007/03/31/testing-multiple-ie-versions-simultaneously/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;) and checked out your site: the WebFX .htc file isn&#039;t working. I also installed it, and tried setting the full path to blank.gif but no go. I suspect that catch is &quot;[blank.gif] should be placed in the same directory as the web page using the behavior&quot;. As it was developed during 2001-2004 I&#039;m guessing it&#039;s only suited to sites with static HTML. I use an image-specific fix as &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bioneural.net/2006/08/09/valid-fix-for-png-transparency-on-a-single-image/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I am trying to eliminate them now</p></blockquote>
<p>Why is that David? Something against PNG or design reasons?</p>
<p>[quote post="809"]I don't actually know how well it works, as I haven't looked through a Windows machine running IE.</p>
<p>I just fired up Parallels (with multiple IEs as <a href="http://www.bioneural.net/2007/03/31/testing-multiple-ie-versions-simultaneously/" rel="nofollow">here</a>) and checked out your site: the WebFX .htc file isn't working. I also installed it, and tried setting the full path to blank.gif but no go. I suspect that catch is "[blank.gif] should be placed in the same directory as the web page using the behavior". As it was developed during 2001-2004 I'm guessing it's only suited to sites with static HTML. I use an image-specific fix as <a href="http://www.bioneural.net/2006/08/09/valid-fix-for-png-transparency-on-a-single-image/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 10:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha pngs, I love em!

However, much as I have used transparent pngs in the past (full 24 bit gloriousness), I am trying to eliminate them now. Still, for the moment I have the pngbehaviour.htc file from &lt;a href=&quot;http://webfx.eae.net/dhtml/pngbehavior/pngbehavior.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; to make Explorer behave a bit better. (I don&#039;t actually know how well it works, as I haven&#039;t looked through a Windows machine running IE.)

My ie6.css file has the following in: &lt;code&gt;img { behavior: url(&quot;pngbehavior.htc&quot;); }&lt;/code&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha pngs, I love em!</p>
<p>However, much as I have used transparent pngs in the past (full 24 bit gloriousness), I am trying to eliminate them now. Still, for the moment I have the pngbehaviour.htc file from <a href="http://webfx.eae.net/dhtml/pngbehavior/pngbehavior.html" rel="nofollow">here</a> to make Explorer behave a bit better. (I don't actually know how well it works, as I haven't looked through a Windows machine running IE.)</p>
<p>My ie6.css file has the following in: <code>img { behavior: url("pngbehavior.htc"); }</code></p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 20:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m itching to use some of that WebKit/ Mozilla draft CSS 3 stuff too David&#8212;but I&#039;ve harped on about proprietary Microsoft code so often I couldn&#039;t help but feel hypocritical :-&#124;

As for transparent overlays at one point I did use &lt;code&gt;opacity: 0.8;&lt;/code&gt; on my tabs in the header. I recently realized I could achieve the same effect &lt;em&gt;and&lt;/em&gt; validate by creating a 1px black image in Photoshop and setting transparency to 65%. I just repeat this with &lt;code&gt;background: url(&#039;opacity65.png&#039;) center repeat;&lt;/code&gt; and use conditional CSS to set &lt;code&gt;background: none;&lt;/code&gt; for IE6.

I love the drop shadow Brent is showing to WebKit browsers &lt;a href=&quot;http://inessential.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. It works really well on my page too, but I&#039;ve turned it off (as with &lt;code&gt;text-shadow&lt;/code&gt; in the header). I have allowed myself one non-valid indulgence: the welcome box &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bioneural.net/category/project-koru/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; is CSS 3 draft (using &lt;code&gt;-webkit-box-shadow&lt;/code&gt; and &lt;code&gt;-webkit-border-radius&lt;/code&gt; and because this CSS is inline it should be the only page on my site that doesn&#039;t validate!

Just 2% of visitors to my site use Opera, so I don&#039;t both testing with it (although for all I know that 2% might represent my 2 regular readers!).

SVG? Yeah, I tried Googling for info on corners and gradients with SVG and found so little in the way of real-world use &lt;del datetime=&quot;2008-02-08T00:39:44+00:00&quot;&gt;I didn&#039;t think it worth pursuing&lt;/del&gt;.

&lt;em&gt;Update 08.02.08&lt;/em&gt;: SVG test cases added.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm itching to use some of that WebKit/ Mozilla draft CSS 3 stuff too David&mdash;but I've harped on about proprietary Microsoft code so often I couldn't help but feel hypocritical :-|</p>
<p>As for transparent overlays at one point I did use <code>opacity: 0.8;</code> on my tabs in the header. I recently realized I could achieve the same effect <em>and</em> validate by creating a 1px black image in Photoshop and setting transparency to 65%. I just repeat this with <code>background: url('opacity65.png') center repeat;</code> and use conditional CSS to set <code>background: none;</code> for IE6.</p>
<p>I love the drop shadow Brent is showing to WebKit browsers <a href="http://inessential.com/" rel="nofollow">here</a>. It works really well on my page too, but I've turned it off (as with <code>text-shadow</code> in the header). I have allowed myself one non-valid indulgence: the welcome box <a href="http://www.bioneural.net/category/project-koru/" rel="nofollow">here</a> is CSS 3 draft (using <code>-webkit-box-shadow</code> and <code>-webkit-border-radius</code> and because this CSS is inline it should be the only page on my site that doesn't validate!</p>
<p>Just 2% of visitors to my site use Opera, so I don't both testing with it (although for all I know that 2% might represent my 2 regular readers!).</p>
<p>SVG? Yeah, I tried Googling for info on corners and gradients with SVG and found so little in the way of real-world use <del datetime="2008-02-08T00:39:44+00:00">I didn't think it worth pursuing</del>.</p>
<p><em>Update 08.02.08</em>: SVG test cases added.</p>
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