Comments on: Change the NZ flag!

By: Sam

Sam — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 05:26:13 +0000

My two cents is that we have to look at the reasons for why we want to change the flag. As an expat in China I m a little tired of hearing how similar our flag is to Australia but as "Wellingtonsprodiacalson" alluded to, we can't get rid of our flag for that reason. This flag is what our grandparents fought for and it is our history that has mae us who we are. We cannot forget that.

However the second reason is our relationship with the UK. Currently through technicalities we still recognise the Queen as our Head of State as the governor general is her Majesties representative. We should not remove the Union Jack from the flag if we still honour the Queen. To me it sounds like a contradiction. I think the first arguement should be whether we remove ourselves officially from the UK. Then can we claim a new flag, and with that, a new identity.

But do we really want the fuss???

By: WellingtonsProdicalSon

WellingtonsProdicalSon — Mon, 01 Oct 2007 19:50:58 +0000

This is absolutely ridiculous. As a NZ citizen I feel that my present and future are bound very tightly with my past. I am proud of my past and my countries history, and I like the fact that this is recognised in our flag.

By changing the flag you are changing our history, it's not something we should sweep away, we should be proud of what we have become, whilst honouring our past. A vast number of us wouldn't even be here if it were not for those historical beginnings.

By: Bruce

Bruce — Fri, 02 Jun 2006 11:00:43 +0000

Thanks Lynn. I agree a koru is a good candidate for a single, simple symbol with which all NZers should be able to identify. I'm very much in agreement with the nzflag.com folks that simplicity is the way to go (as per the iconic flags of Switzerland, Japan, Canada, etc). Too many of the designs I've seen attempt to pull togehter combinations of multiple elements: the Imperial (British) colours, the Southern Cross, ferns, korus, colours that are supposed to represent the Nation or Maoridom. They end up looking too busy.

If it wasn't a trademark, I'd be tempted to run with the Air New Zealand logo!

By: Lynn

Lynn — Fri, 02 Jun 2006 10:16:16 +0000

I finally visited the NZFlag website and read through it.
I have to say my favourite endorsement came from Ian Mune:
"And if we want the stars, we better get in quick or the Aussies will pinch it."

It's a little bit too much like the NZI Insurance advert currently running on TV here, but strangely enough it strikes exactly the same chord.

I have to admit to liking the Tino Rangatiratanga flag design. The only negative thing about it is the connotation that it is used for Maori sovereignty and not for national unity.
My other choice would be the Aotearoa Flag - Southern Cross by Jeffy James. The colours feel right, it includes the Southern Cross, and it includes the Koru. And it feel dynamic.
(Just my two cents worth.)

By: Bruce

Bruce — Thu, 01 Jun 2006 11:54:11 +0000

JP, click on the name "Clint" to go to his website.

By: JP

JP — Thu, 01 Jun 2006 11:50:01 +0000

Where can I find your design Clint?

By: Clint

Clint — Thu, 01 Jun 2006 11:18:44 +0000

JP, nzflag.com would do anything with your design unless you get mass media coverage for it. Until it's popular..

If you're talking about sending it to the gov't.. as they haven't asked for submissions they won't really do anything either..

Check my design out and tell me what you think.

By: JP

JP — Sun, 28 May 2006 10:26:26 +0000

Bruce mate, I have emailed them on 2 seperate occasions!

No replies.

By: Bruce

Bruce — Sat, 27 May 2006 16:54:56 +0000

JP, why not try the "Contact Us" link on http://www.nzflag.com?

By: JP

JP — Thu, 25 May 2006 10:06:39 +0000

Can anyone tell me the procedure for submitting a flag design.

I am a NZ artist living overseas and would like my flag to be considered. It is a lot more appropriate than the majority of the designs posted on the nzflag website.

Any help would be hugely appreciated.

Thanks